[QUOTE=Orion ZyGarian;3721060]No, he really does say the truth. Every single time I have tried to drop my pre-judgement of any Honda 4 banger, I find out it was even worse than I thought! IMO Honda = lost hope. Now if its the 3.2, 3.5, 2.3T, etc, thats different. Otherwise, stop trying so damn hard to squeeze power out of an engine built and engineered from day one to strictly be economical and nothing more.



I have owned a couple stock swap(160 horse motor) hondas that run 13's. not fast. most honda people give honas a bad rep. My thought is fast honda look slow and slow hondas look fast.