I am almost at the point of giving up on trying to mediate this disagreement.

There are too many variables & nobody is willing to accept any kind of blame.

I as a tuner know what it is like to have some one blame you for something that has NOTHING to do with you what so ever.

Example:

A customer with a built b16 contacted me for dyno tuning, I setup the appointtment per his request.

I started to tune the car, & after the first run I new there was a problem with the motor due to the fact that it was making less power then a completely stock b16 with 120,000 miles on it...

I informed the customer of the issue & told him I felt we should pull the car off the dyno if the motor did not wake up after I targeted the proper a/f ratios.
The customer told me he wanted me to continue so I did.

After 1.5 hours on the dyno of making fuel/timing/vtec activation point changes I told the customer that I felt I should take the car off the dyno due to the fact that the motor was not making the power it should & I felt that the problem needed to be resolved off the dyno so he was not paying $200 per hour to troubleshoot the missing power...

The customer agreed. A few months later I hear from the customer, he tells me that 3 days after the tune. The motor had PISTON TO VALVE contact & that his motor was destroyed. KEEP IN MIND I DID NOT TOUCH THE CAM GEARS due to the fact that I felt it was a waste of time & money for him to have me touch the cam timing on the dyno!!!


The customer was blaming me for physical piston to valve contact which is physically impossible for me to have caused.

There you go, now you know how stupid people can be, hence my skepticism towards this thread.

Furthermore, I have seen people blame there tuners because they have messed with there cars after the car was perfectly tuned...

I.e. A black s2000 turbo setup that (Won't say who) tuned, the customer brings the car to me with a manual boost controller which was improperly installed by the customer.

The car was hitting 30 psi of boost due to the wastegate not opening...
Is this (Won't say who's) fault ? No... However, (Won't say who) did not set a boost cut which I felt was a mistake on his part.