as far as ive seen in any other sport, auto sports or not, the veterans dont treat the noobs like pieces of shit. you wont see micheal jordan bashing a highschool basketball team calling them noobs. why you super cool drifters treat the new guys like ass is beyond me, if drifting lasts long enough someone will have to fill your shoes. a noob will eventually rise up over all of you and make you all look like asses. be supportive and you might see the mentallity of drifting in this area grow a little. until then i guess the formule D drivers are the only ones allowed to chat in the drifting forum.