actually one of the only times I'll give you credit John - you are 100% correct.

You know, I remember when Matt was a drag racer in his z31, Taylor thought imports were crap (and had a Vortec truck), when Rob used to have his G20. Did anyone of these guys give a damn about drifting? No... and they damn sure weren't the first ones to do it, either. You all start somewhere, be it a Miata, a stock s14 drifting on wet pavement, or S13's sliding into street signs. Everybody starts somewhere, takes from others, watched initial D, and nobody knows it all. The elitist attitude isn't going to fly, and those that keep flossing it are the first to go.