Thanks, I was looking for the 480 color though, the s15 ones. I searched ebay and they all came up as RED, however, mine that are SUPPOSED to be 480's are a pale pink color. I dont believe they are 480's though cause at idle, the wideband reads stoich at 0% correction. However under part throttle condition like at 2000rpm and 10% throttle the correction is only -11% to get a/f ~ 13ish. I guess I could do the math, but Im not sure if my wideband is being gay or what. I dont think it is cause at idle if i set the correction to -42% it idles like ass and reads 19 a/f on the wideband. Im gonna be pissed if these aren't 480's