your not trying to start a debate? you stated that 420a is more reliable and that when you owned a 4g63 you had too change the turbo plenty of times and a list of problems etc etc just sounded like you dont know how to take care of a care. I know plenty of 4g63 owners that havent had 1 problem with them for years. I could also post vids of cars too but instead of 4 vids I can show you hundreds of pages. So what was the point. Anyways get a 4g63 you wont regret it. gl