And Those Are The Examples That Could Change The Mentalities Of These Noob Riders... If People That Have Been Riding For Years Have Stuff Like This Happen Maybe It Could Do Something... Many Of Us Here Are Active Riders (unlike Myself) And Others Are Very Involved In The Forums And Even Though I Would Not Recognize Most Of You In Person I Know Your Story And I Know Who You Are Here On The Forums... Until These People Get On Here And Join The Rest Of Us These Casulties Will Continue... Putting The Word Out About These Forums Is Great But Its Just Not Getting Out To All The Others...