Yea, thats exactly my point... he is selling a civic that has a SWAPPED engine (which anyone that knows anything about hondas) never stays reliable. Plus I highly doubt a LS DOHC motor gets anywhere close to the EPA a sohc1.5 gets. Plus the car is dropped and has been wrenched on numerous times. As I originally posted ... someone that wants to commue every day and needs a "RELIABLE" DD that gets good gas mileage will not want a swapped civic with a MANUAL TRANNY that hs been fucked with. Im sure the car he is selling is very good looking and probably drives great, but from a fuel mileage / reliability / sitting in traffic for an hour and shifting standpoint. Ill get someone that cares about the points im trying to make. Im not at all trying to sound like a jerk but...look at it from my POV.