Originally Posted by JDMevo
I'm racist yeah okay because I was mocking an idiot on here that makes me racist? My bestfriend is black, my fiancee is white. I'm hispanic... so how am I racist? You obviously don't know me that well then.
If you're not, then your posts were just thoughtless. When you reply to someone calling you "nigga" with "I'm not black but keep trying," the implication is that you believe black skinned people are "niggas."
In any event, your other responses to "cracka, nigga, gay" talk were equally suspicious.
I don't know I've seen some spend 3 times the money of what the car is really worth so I mean this of course is everyone's opinion.
What does this prove? This says nothing about what the build cost would be for your average 12 second GSX.
Incidentally, weren't you one of those people once upon a time?
I will do this though, I'm planning on turboing the 420a... starting with the stock internals then doing an actual build. After all that I will post how much I got my car for and how much I spent so then its aware of what the average is to boosting a 420a. The only reason people say its a waste is because turbo owners think that 420a owners go buy a HRC turbo kit which is like $3,000. You can actually build one for $1,000-$1,300 and upgrade and build from there.
First, what you spend isn't the average, by definition. It's what you spent.
Second, I don't believe its a waste. It's a choice.
But yeah turbo pistons/rods for the 4g63t and 420a are around the same price.
I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here, but inasmuch as I think I have an idea, I'll respond accordingly.
The point to be made here is that if you have a 4g63, you don't have to worry about internals for a track car until 400-500hp. This is not the case for the 420a, as you know.
So, the cost for rods and pistons on the 4g63 are $0.00, and thus < pistons/rods for the 420a.
I also didn't state build cost, I said in general. A 4g63t is a high maintence vehicle and is more prone for something to go wrong... sometimes small sometimes drastic. So in turn you end up spending more then what the car is worth just like the 420a owners.
This is a poor analysis. It will cost more money in total to build a 420a to comparable performance levels with a 4g63. At that point, reliability comparisons will be likely a wash, as you're now dealing with two high hp vehicles being pushed by their owners.
Further, a 4g63 is hardly a high maintenance vehicle (although I will concede that even a stock 4g63 requires more maintenance than your average Honda or Toyota), but a highly modded turbo vehicle certainly is. There is no measurable reliability difference between a 4g63 and any other turbo motor (and if there is, it has not been established through study, only speculation). Finally, almost every 4g63 problem can be attributed to overworking the engine without a solid tune, age, a piss-poor mechanic (owner or otherwise), or poor maintenance. The same can be said for most engines, but the 420a, ironically, is not one of them (see TSB headgasket).