ok, check this out guys...my brother convinced me into keeping the cams for now...i had the wrong vtec silenoid on my car (sohc one) and that might be why my vtec wasn't kicking in as hard as i would like....so after i rebuild my bottom end i am going to try these cams again...if its the same, then i will either trade for the toda's or
type-r's or maybe even the ctr's that someone pm'd me with...thanks to all that replied