I personally never thought it could get into the 11's without some different parts. I do think there is a mid to high 12 in it as it sits though.....I guess time will tell. If he can get to a 1.60 I think its there. From what I understand, Subys are hard to learn how to launch right...just what I heard, never tried it.... how are things going Keith, havent heard from you in a while?