QuickF20C I doubt that you will ever see a VW handle like a S2000. They werent designed to. And you probably wont in the future either until VW gets their head out of their ass. They are too concerned with the poshness of their cars rather than performance. Right now VW Jettas hold the place of the Poor mans Bimmer.

Personaly Im not a fan of Hondas in general. I have nothing against those that do like them. Every car has its enthusiasts. If you two can get 13.6s from your cars thats great. I know my GTI will probably never see that kind of time. Id be lucky to break 15s. Only because of my bad driving.