seriously half of them rag on the 2.3t stangs which in my opinion was one of the best ones built, and rag on toyota....um, i've owned both fords and toyota/mazda. and both the fords suck ass. my supra has hit a wall at over 45 mph, still runs and drives fairly straight, and has had the shit beaten out of it since i bought it. all i had to do was change the oil and spark plugs. my aunt had an early 80's corolla and had over 400,000 miles on it when she got rid of it and only then because it was disintegrating from rust, but then again my uncle had a 78 camaro with over 250,000 miles. i just can't stand such ignorant people with tunnel vision, even how everyone hates on hondas. there good cars and handle well, they may not be what most of there owners think they are but there still good cars.