thanks for all the support guys... i am really tired and dont have much else to add to this at this time... but one thing that i did want to say is, it is NOT soley due to Lumpy that we are getting out of this... it is just the overall hassle and the fact that it is no longer fun, we all got into this because we enjoyed it... and now we dont... so we are going to get back to doing this as a hobby for now...