Originally Posted by ghost 727
i would like to see tr make the full sepration from tf i'm not a fan of tf and i go on it maybe 1 time a month just to look at the sports section.i think tf has taken all the bs and lil kid shit that tr used to have on it and now tr is more of what i think it should be witch is all car people and people who have a passion for cars.
i would like to see a free for all section like the old tr had.lets face it the people on tr vs the people on tf are night and day.its the truth so dont try and flame me for saying it.the mods and people are more laid back on here and it make for a better place.
you kind of contradict yourself in those 2 paragraphs.
FFA was moved to TF because it made TR difficult to manage at times. It brought a large amount of people who werent into cars, who didnt contribute anything in tech sections and who created a bunch of problems. The general impression from everyone was that TR should be about cars.. populated by car people with content about cars and things related to them.
Now your proposing bringing back the very FFA section that created all the issues to begin with. In one half you are glad that element is gone and then in the next sentence asking for it back. If TR has an offtopic area.. its going to end up like it was before. Its going to bring back the kids, the post whores and be exactly like it was before.
I'd rather see us invest our time in such things as timeslip databases, event coverage, product/car reviews etc etc. You know, car related stuff. Not cluttering up the site with all the offtopic crap. TF has a perfectly good spread of offtopic sections.
for some reason (and it seems to be alot more lately) you TR people are unhappy that we cleaned the site up and made it alot more usable. you have this dislike of TF for some reason. you seem to think as admins/owners we put alot more time and effort into TF than TR and that your not getting the attention you deserve. Thats wrong, TR is still the bigger site. TR has banner advertsing at Braedenton, TF has nothing like that. TR events costs money to put on, involve 100+ racers and 300-500 spectators. .and make the site money.. TF events have maybe $50 and make nothing. TR has had ALOT more money spent on design, coding and advertsing than TF. A large number of us admins spend alot more time on TR than TF (split is about 50%). TR is why we have the big server, and why we might need another. TR 4 sale is still much much much larger than TF.
So thinking TF is the focus is just wrong. TR works, it runs 10x smoother now without the extra baggage of a free 4 all. Especially when a perfectly cool FFA area is just a click away. TR is about to get a redesign soon to distinguish it from TF so there is no mistaking which site your on.
TR is not a spinoff from TF. TF is the spinoff, the baby brother.
Lastly. If you have issues, ideas, pet peeves, annoyances or just want to vent about the site, PM me. I'm always open to criticism and ideas and I might just have a perspective on an issue your not aware of. Best way to find out what our plans are is to ask.