ok thatnks for clearing up the whole zetec thing for me, i wasnt too sure what exactly it was but now i understand. yeah im doing my research now but i wont be buying till i go off to college at the end of this school year....i know it's a long time away and prices are going to change a lot between now and then but i want to do my research now you know....i know i need something a lot more economical than what i have now (280zx turbo) because im getting killed on gas and insurance so i'm looking at the focus svt's, celica gts's, and rsx type s's mostly but im not sure what to get yet and im not keeping it exclusively to that list...i dunno any imput you guys can give me on my decision and what you would choose would also be helpful.