where you start is in a nice parking lot in the rain. don't tell me you can't find someplace, your just not going out east enough. dday's for the most part are int eh dry, which is not where you learn how to drift in a basically stock car. we serioulsy need a rain drift day or just wet down a portion of the track so the n00bs can have some slow speed practice and not be beating on their cars. just my .02. but hey, what do i know.