yea that is what i told him, but he said by the time i invest my money to have them align and put them on, im looking at 350, just for installation!! And i have to get a camber kit which is another 30 right there. So after all said and done i would of put 650 into springs on my car. But if i get coilovers, i can probably install them myself(i dunno) and get it aligned for around 1000 dollars (tein coilovers for 900 shipped on ebaymotors.com). But i dont intend to autox or any of that, just daily driven car.