well so far everyone has given great opinions.... i think i might go with the S2000 just because i think i have better luck with honda's... i had a 300zx and that broke and then i had a VW passat and everything started fucking up on that and now i have a civic which runs great and my first car was a prelude with 250,000 miles and it ran perfect... so now i think i may have decided to stick with a honda..... thanks for all ur comments... and thanks to everyone for not being negative at all towards anyone elses comments