thanks for the help guys, its not going lower than 4k tho. n/a mr-2,s sell on the auto trader ALL the time for around 5k. its simply a matter of finding someone who just wants a 2nd gen mr-2. alot of people could give a shit less if it was turbo, or even 5spd. mr-2's are very nice looking cars and people will throw down a good 5k for an n/a. older, more mature guys really only care if it has leather and would probably rather it be an auto. my car is very clean, and i know i can pull 4k for it easy.