I forget the specifics but go to the 'org' www.maxima.org and find the nitrous forum. Look for the name Jime(jim-ee). He is the one i am refering to. He's an old schooler like myself. You will be suprized just how easy it now is to get a relatively quick car with simple mods. Most of the old schoolers have pioneered into the unknown and dispelled a lot of myths. There are many roads that have been paved for the new guys, so there is no more trial and error. Plus many companies, about 1.5 yrs ago, started to jump on the program...especially since the Z is now with a VQ as well. Now days its pretty common for N/A maxima's to get into the 13's with a couple simple bolt ons. They may even be pushing close to the 12's...haven't checked in a while though.