The graphics may not be up to par,but what can you expect with Forza?..It did'nt take 4 yrs to design and make the game.EVEN after it took so long for gt4 to come out,i was STILL dissapointed when it did.I mean SERIOUSLY..WTF is a "camera mode" in a true to heart racing game?

Now we'll comepare engine sounds.
Gt4-I'm sorry but the last time i checked,i could very EASILY hear the turbo spool on any f/i car,much less my 800hp Supra,when it STILL sounded stock,i was mad.Even a completely built Z06 sounds like a damned 6 cylinder in gt4!!
Forza-you get the "turbo spool" and the "supercharger whine",my honda..sounded like a honda..and my z06 FINALLY gets to let out it earth shaking roar.

Next..1/4 times.
Gt4-I'm sorry but a 600hp srt-4,that barely breaks out of the 12's...SERIOUSLY?!Slicks the WHOLE 9 yards,do absolute SHIT!!
Forza-Crazy how a 500hp Srt-4 runs low 11's now..MUCH better.

Body kits/wings
Gt4-You get a aluminum spoiler..point blank,be happy.
Forza-Some kits are actually functional in the game,cars that arent meant to have gawdy wings,arent aloud to have them.Plus everyone has to have a riced out eg coupe with a 600hp k20 hidden

Motorswaps
Gt4-Have fun hacking
Forza-Did i mention my old school 240zx has a rb26dett in it?..Nuff said.

Online play
Gt4-
Forza-GOLDMINE