Originally Posted by Fordified
I myself run my T4/T3 hybrid (with no coolant provisions in the center section) for 2 years at 22lbs and the turbo feels like brand new.
This is apparently an oil-cooled turbo, so it should feel like brand new. We're talking about turbos that have been engineered to run with coolant lines.
The issue here is also one of ambiguity; the OP did not specify what type of turbo he is trying to run, (although I'm assuming it is a stock MHI turbo since he is waiting to put in a 20g). So, why don't we reserve our personal experience evidence to stock MHI turbos meant to run with water lines, not random 50 trims our buddies are running in Apopka.
Originally Posted by 4drwhore
I know of people running 8s with no water lines. Shep doesn't run them, brent rou doesn't run them, marco doesn't run them. Then again maybe you don't recognize some of these people cause these are big dogs in the dsm world.
The only one I had trouble recognizing was Brent Rou, because you misspelled his name. And you are citing the drivers of pro and sem-pro drag cars that see new engines every year. You are also (probably) citing people who drive cars with turbos that don't require water lines. The issue at hand is eliminating water lines from turbos that are built and engineered to run with them.
Originally Posted by Fordified
If you stay out of boost for about 30 seconds before shutting off the car, water lines will do NOTHING for you. You can quote all the tuners and sources you want, but I know this to be fact.
How do you know this to be a fact? Honestly, I do not know either side to be a "fact". I'm arguing my opinion because I think it is correct, but if you all can provide terrific evidence for your case, I am interested to hear. I find it hard to believe that a 1400 degree turbine housing that is directly connected to a center section full of oil will cool down enough idling for 30 seconds while being cooled
only by ambient air inside the engine compartment. If you were going to leave your turbo timer on a two or three minute setting, maybe it would work.
Still, I don't see the huge problem with water lines, and I'd rather leave them connected
and run a turbo timer than take a chance at frying a turbo.