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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 4drwhore
I know you did not post quoting dsmtards.
Clever. You may not be aware of this, but there are at least 19 dsmtards running 10s or below. I wasn't trying to be an assclown in my original post. Notice that I respectfully disagreed with you. I obviously can't expect the same civility from you.

Originally Posted by 4drwhore
I ran my 14b for quite a while with no water lines and no problems.
Congratulations. Try running it for 3 years and see how your turbo likes it. If you run a water-cooled turbo without coolant lines, you will drastically reduce the life of your turbo. This is not to say (as I mentioned before) that you can't run low boost applications, or run the turbo without coolant for short periods. But MHI turbos are built to last for the life of the car, and coolant inlet/outlet/and lines are built into the turbo for a reason.

Originally Posted by 4drwhore
I know people running 14b's, 20g's, evo316g's, 61mm+ sized turbo's all with no oil lines. I guess they are all wrong also and their cars are just ticketing time bombs?
Yes. Except for your friends who run oil-cooled turbos. Their turbos do not require coolant lines. But I doubt that they are ticketing any time bombs.

Originally Posted by 4drwhore
I'll ask you this, if the whole point of a turbo is using hot gas to spin a turbine cause hot gas moves faster, why would you want to cool things down?
So that hot oil is not baking in your turbo.

Originally Posted by 4drwhore
Maybe I don't know anything or maybe you should stop looking at tuners for "information".
Either could be possible.

Originally Posted by 4drwhore
*edit* Please prove your statement in some way and not by quoting t00ners.
Okay. My point is not to prove you wrong, but to state my (educated) opinion. I wasn't trying to personally attack you, and I apologize if you took it as such. Oil-cooled turbos are meant to run without coolant lines, water-cooled turbos are not.

Why? Because water is a far better coolant than air. The specific heat capacity of atmospheric air is roughly 1.005 joules per gram Kelvin. The specific heat of water is 4.184. Do the math and decide which substance you would want to cool your turbo down. Running your turbo timer for a minute after hard driving will not cool your turbine housing back safe levels from the 1200+ degree temperatures it can reach under heavy boost. So, while there won't be as much oil in your turbo from running at low rpm for a minute, the oil that is there will still bake on your bearings.

That's the best explanation I can give you, without quoting "dsmtards".
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