ya..i kno..but supposedly the cars are now meeting on north beach rather then adams mark, and the bikes are fun to watch but the help regulate the cops, and now we have to worry about the new sound violations at 25 feet instead of 100, but even if we get some car to roll out to caponas on gulf to bay would be nice cuz bikes got that parking lot on saturdays, i just want a local car meet so i can put faces to some names, cuz ive been a reader on this thing forever just dont post much