to redline- i said above consistent twelves but wanting to break high 11's. i also am not doing all of my own work. i wanted to get additional dsm knowlege, so i took my freind that knows most of you, but has been out of the game for a whike to help. he has an extensive track record which includes owning and working on 5 dsm's of his own, and building motors for other people including one's that he sold to Jerry. i did this so i could learn more about my car. when i do buy a car i do my research. not saying i am more knowlegeable, but i do know some stuff. hope i am not the new asshole outcast of dsmers, but sorry for the lengthy post.

to 4drwhore- thanx fpr the appology and sorry for bein a dick.