haha , the hell with hondas , i cant stand rice.....All im really looking for is that 450 to 500 range.. Your right , James at RR is a ford guy , but no matter what kinda work ive gone through him for , he has done his best to satisfy me , and stand behind his jobs 100%.. those are the kinda people i give my business to... as far as that Rear HD2 set up , im going to look into that a bit further , cause i am not to familiar with it... but thanks for the info man , i appreciate it