Originally Posted by MiDiablo
Mikey/AcidiCyn/FullThrottle_
I don't know you from Adam. I know 'of you' because of your posts (both here and on N2S), and because I am friends with MoMo - who has vouched that you are simply a person w/a passion for racing, and in all actuality are a good/cool character. I trust his judgement, and therefore give you the benefit of the doubt man.
It is obvious that you are passionate about racing. As we all are. You don't like to lose. No one does. Including Havoc. We can all agree here, I'm sure.
You and Havoc have heat between the two of you - that is evident. Your heat w/him consists of the "shit talking" that ensued at the Causeway, his asking of your age, his supposed shit talking of you behind your back, and so on.
From my discussions w/Havoc, his only problem w/you has been the exact thing in which he's posted about, and to you - which is that you seem different in person w/your attitude and motives, than you do when you get to a keyboard & msg forum. I mean you have managed to be banned twice from N2S due to your attitude alone. And that was the sole reason behind both of the incidents. It is one thing to try and talk a little junk prior to the race, but you gotta know when to draw the line - and be able to keep it friendly.
He has asked your age, surely, because you're so easily giving into the "He Said, She Said" bullshit. Which happens w/childish groups of individuals. Whether or not you truly are one of these individuals, I'm unsure. But you've certainly not done much of a job to prove any different. I'm sure he was curious as to try and figure out why you act in the manner(s) that you do.
As for Havoc being arrogant, and talking shit - DO NOT TAKE ANY OF IT PERSONAL. Especially when it involves getting you, your car, your friends car(s) into a Race. Obviously you know all about Stirring The Pot. He's quite good at it, and it's been a success time and time again. If it weren't for him runnin' around and spoutin' off at the mouth many a nights there would be no races at all. His pokes, and prods are just that - fuel to the fire - to promote Racing, Fun, and Fun Racing Videos to be shared w/everyone on the entire fucking internet.
I know - you don't care what I have to say. You've told me so in several other posts going back and forth b/t you and I. I can respect the fact that w/out knowing me, that my point of view is meaningless to you. Just remember, I wouldn't say a word if it didn't mean shit to me. But this is all meaningful to me - Racing is to be Fun. Losing is to make for a drive to go faster, and be faster. I know I'd enjoy seeing your car(s) going at it, and getting faster, and winning, losing, whatever - just racing w/out Drama.
Sorry for the long post.
Josh
Couple things Josh..
One. I've never met this guy (Chris) before, he just rubbed off very bad on me that night..You tell me that 'stirs' the pot and talk shit? But, I can't? Come on man..That's kind of contradictive. But, that's okay.
Two. If I win, I win. If I lose, I lose. My car is by far not the fastest thing on the street by a long shot. I'm not saying that at all..
Three. If you would go back to the other 'havoc call out' thread on TR. You'd see that I agreed with you everytime / point you said..I have no problem with you. You seem like a really cool guy. You make a lot of sense and seem level headed, 'Dr. Phil' type shit.
Question though. How is my talking shit and taking it personal doing something wrong if I don't know the guy. NEver met him or nothing. He stirs shit up, but I can't?
When you race someone, do you not sort of look back? Wouldn't jager tell havoc, 'I think something happened?' No offense, but havoc wouldn't pull me that hard. It was just a misunderstanding. It happened..Meh.