you are right there is no way to tell, but judging from the fall that the bike took, and the story from the owner you can pretty much determine what is bent and what isn't. alot of the cosmetic things took the damage and not the frame. I will get better pictures so that you can see this alot better than now. My r6 was mangled twice as bas as this and my fram was good. I can't determine that to mine either so there really is no need on me saying this. Buyer do what you like, this bike IS WORTH 5 grand all day. Take any precautionary measures that you need to ensure that this bike will be good for you. BTW TAMPAMAX, are you even interested in the bike or did you want to put your 2 cents in??