thanks little nicky for the correction, It was prob a basme model ion the only have 140hp and thats not to the wheels either and if it was cvt tranny it runs like 20 sec 1/4 LOL. Its pretty hard for any allmotor vtec honda/acura to beat me, but im not saying its impossable by all means. I just havent lost to an allmotor one b4 for example LSvtec/b16/b18 and a stock lude it was problably the slower not worked ones but i still won, i wanted to run ITR and he turned me down i dont know why but he did ,maybe cuz im slow??? I really only try to run from a roll cuz it saves my tires and thats $$$ in my pocket there. But its all fun for me I dont care if i lose, as long as i keep up or hold my ground thats all i care about. Ill be out saterday night and mondaynight. Im the only RL out so you know its me.