I on the other hand say turbo the avenger and keep the eclipse for the daily driver....you see less turbo avengers than eclipses....heh, people will give you more props as well, believe me, as for it being unreliable thats BS, I have a 2.4 turbo swap in my neon(same engine family as the 420a) and it has been as reliable as a rock, its built all the way and the only problems I have had with it are user error...ones it was my fault to begin with...and btw, whats bad about a home built kit?(other than stupid little things like funky oil return lines) just because I built it myself doesnt mean its not tuned...after all, I have a full standalone...I just dont believe in the half measures that most "kits" offer(IE they sell kits to make money, not make a huge amount of power, and they have to design them for engines with a stock block)