thats cool man. if i came off sounding like a d!ck, i did'nt mean to. i just can't let it go for $17,000. i tried to pm you, but i guess you don't accept pm's or e-mails. seriously though.... i'm not in any rush to get rid of it, i love this car, so i'm procrastinating until i get the best price possible for it. once it goes in autotrader, i'm gonna see what other kind of offers i get. if you still are interested in the car and can get more $ together, then let me know. thanks man.