I know NOTHING about the 4G63, other than shit happens. I will NOT argue with you about which the best 4 cyl of all time is because I agree.

It just seems like DSMs are just as prone to unreliability as MkIIIs, and I'm certain at least double the amount of MkIIIs were made compared to the Eclipse/Talon/Lazer etc.

Also, my friend with the rod going *peak!* has a 4G63. Like I said shit happens.

Dont get me wrong...do not think I am flaming or hating. I concider the 3S-GTE the exact 4 cyl replica of a 2JZ (IIRC 86mm x 86mm etc.) but the 4G63 is just nuts.

I'm just saying that most DSM guys seem like assholes from the DSMTuners site and beat their cars horribly, not allowing for any sort of reliabilty, but I personally have only had cool experiences with DSM guys

Hope I havent gone too far on a tangent here...I'm not one to doubt anything DSM related. Of course there are plenty of unreliable MkIIIs and 7Ms, but its because their owners dont know a damn and try to cut corners, let alone beating their car daily...but there are plenty still with a properly torqued MHG and 200k mi + strong