lol whats up with the whole delsol fag comment? did i call you a firebird fag? what does this have to do with my car? and you call us nitpicking pussies...anyways i forgot all about the viper, i agree that car is well made. actually, as of late ive been quite happy with the american manufactureres. dodge is kicking ass with their lineup, the srt-4, the srt-10, everything now has a hemi, and they are bringing the charger back. so even thought the 2 cars shouldnt be compared, i guess we really shouldnt go running around putting it up against cars expecting it to come out on top. sigh