really jay? i thought they did. owell. i really beleive you. you know a shitload more than i do. i thought the bluebirds were fwd with the det. my bad. but then why is it that the GTi-R motor is a bitch to fit in? is it because it uses different parts for tranny/drivetrain? i think thats waht ive heard from everybody but im just a little bit curious. BTW, you met me while i was down and youve met my sis when you went to Bennigans with Jihad.