whtmustangt99 mentioned that people think they're faster because their car revs up quicker. That's exactly why reving to 8,000 isn't a "downfall" in Honda terms, because I rev up faster than you do. In the time it takes to get into your 4,000 rpm?? (Don't know GT's powerband) powerband, I'm already at my 5,700 rpm powerband. So I would say we both reach our powerbands at the same time regardless of what RPM it's at. There's no arguing about my car being faster, I know it's not, but it's not because I have to rev higher. I find it amazing that my car redlines at 8,400 rpms, I'm sure some of your cars could do it, but reving to 8,400-9,000 rpms WITHOUT floating a valve or something is the "fascinating" part about it. I'm happy with my 4 banger, quick enough for me and gets 26 city mpg, along with only costing me $18. If I wanted a fast car, I'd sell my Type R and buy a GT or SS or WS6 for the same amount. *shrugs*

*Edit* Only costing me $18 to fill my tank.