actally the 1st gen RTs and ACRs are as good as the SRT4 I think, except in the engine department, but I know how you feel, I have loved neons for years, more than a match for any equivalent honda or other NA sport compact, although I have taken full advantage of SRT parts IE, oil pump,water pump, etc for my 2.4, what really gets me is most of the neon techies(I say most here) are not SRT4 owners....I was on SRT4forums the other day and I was looking at all these newbie posts by new owners who think they know more than loyal mopar fans.....it gets on my nerves too, yes I love the SRT4, but I love the rest of the neon family too...then on floridaneons.org I was reading a post about a statewide SRT4 meet...as if regular neons arent good enough to for them(ps, this is not about most SRT4 owners here, just about some SRT4 owners in general and how they, and the rest of the sport compact world in general is condescending toward non-SRT4 neons in general, regardless of mods) I mean, when I talk cars with someone I'm always respectful of their ride, whether its a toyota tercel or a 429 mustang, I love cars in general and hate disparaging remarks like "but its still a neon" especially when its coming from someone who drives a 17 or 18 second car