cubanboy1464326 you were only out a car in the begining because i was spinning so hard..... ill be out on some better tires and i can show you the difference. ( BTW im so uber rich thats why i drive a 92 civic hatch with the cheapest dohc swap and a relitivly small turbo, I DONT EVEN Have V-TEEECCCCCHHHHHKK) god if only i could afford a built motor!