But what about the FOREGIN cars I see pictures from in miami or orlando?
Posted by RiceRocket
...and all those pictures you posted, of the EVO7's and the Skylines.....
They are all at Port Everglades (FREE TRADE ZONE). Some of those cars have been there for what, over a year, because NOBODY can legalize them. Pictures of cars in a free trade zone doesn't mean squat.
If I remember correctly, EVO7's were once imported illegally by a firm in ORlando, and sold to customers.....than the DOT showed up at their houses to take them back. The owners paid around $35k each, and they never got there money back....the cars just sit in storage. Last I heard, Sean Morris was trying to petition the DOT to add the cars to the eligibilty list, but don't know if it's been approved. This has been going on for about 2-3 years.
Charles
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Kit cars.. Why cant I tear down a foregin PRODUCED car and build it "from parts" or "from a kit". Can I get away with taking a VIN from a similar make and model car from the usa? Can I _____________( insert bullshit scheme here)_____________?
Originally Posted by RiceRocket
You guys don't like "simple" answers, do you.....you need to make me work. Jeez.
Okay....Here I go.
#1 Kit Car/ Assembled from Parts:
Getting a Title for a vehicle is not the same importing one. Importing deals with 4 groups: EPA, NHSTA, Customs, State DOT/DMV (for registration). Getting a title only involves the State DOT/DMV. With this in mind, EVERY STATE has it's own laws regarding titling cars. Since we are in FLORIDA, I will quote FLORIDA's law on TITLING a "KIT CAR"
State of Florida Statute
319.14 Sale of motor vehicles registered or used as taxicabs, police vehicles, lease vehicles, or rebuilt vehicles and nonconforming vehicles.--
5. "Kit car" means a motor vehicle assembled with a kit supplied by a manufacturer to rebuild a wrecked or outdated motor vehicle with a new body kit.
Okay....anybody with half a brain can see that this wouldn't work.....So under the same idea, what about "ASSEMBLED BY PARTS"? That too is regulated by the state. Here is THAT STATUTE:
"Assembled from parts" means a motor vehicle or mobile home assembled from parts or combined from parts of motor vehicles or mobile homes, new or used. "Assembled from parts" does not mean a motor vehicle defined as a "rebuilt vehicle" in subparagraph 3., which has been declared a total loss pursuant to s. 319.30.
Now this one is not as clear, but let me help you out. When you import a car from Japan, you get a de-registration certificate from the japanese gov't. If you import the vehicle legally, than you go through an RI and an ICI. If you "Bypass" this step, than you import the car as "PARTS ONLY or JUNK". If the vehicle is imported under these pretenses, than it is considered to be just that....PARTS ONLY or JUNK, and can not be "re-assembled" and titled as " Assembled from Parts"
#2 J-Garage:
Yes, J-garage and many others can "SHIP" whatever you like, but they can not help in the "Legalization" of the vehicle. If the vehicle is not "legalized", and you get caught with it on the road, you risk the car being de-ported or crushed.....all that money lost. Think about it.
#3 Vehicles To/From Canada:
Yes, it is true that you can not get a Skyline in Canada. Canada has an IMPORT BAN on vehicles less than 15 years old (I believe it's 15 years), so the Skyline would be illegal in Canada....although now, 1989 would start to be legal. Either way, these must be legalized as well to meet Canadian regulations.
Now as far as bringing a car INTO the USA from Canada. This too is not easy. Canada is still a foreign country, and the vehicle MUST comply to USA regulations. If you can not get a canadian vehicle with documentaion from the manufacturer (wither sticker or letter) stating that it meets US specs, than you can not REGISTER the car in the USA. Canadians are allowed to drive there cars here in the US, but they can't register it here.
#4 Vin Swapping:
Okay....like it takes a genius to figure out this is illegal? Vin Swapping is when you buy 2 cars, 1 JDM, and 1 American of a "similar" model, and switch VIN #'s, usually dismantling the "American" version. VERY ILLEGAL. Nuff said.
Any more questions?
Charles
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What about Canadian Importing? I hear they let cars in after 15 years of age!
Originally posted by a TR member.
couldnt you import an 89-90 r32 to canada have a friend up there register it then sell it to you. since canada has the 15 year old car law and we have the i think its 20 year law?
Originally posted by RiceRocket
Read my post about canadian importing......
And also, US does not have a "20 Year" law.
US states that any vehicle that is imported into the USA MUST meet the standards of Safety and emissions for the model year. Since the NHSTA did not regulate this until 1976, any car made before 1976 is not affected, but every car made after 1976 is....
Charles
Even more Canada Info.
Even MORE info............
Originally Posted by RiceRocket