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Post Importing FAQ Compilation! (Courtsey of RiceRocket)

I decided to do this for ALL of TR. We get lots of threads about importing cars from japan or other places. In the replies EVERYONE says to "use the search button" to find RiceRocket's posts on the matter.

WELL I JUST MADE IT A LOT EASIER.

This link below is to the GOVERNMENT's information on the subject. But its a bit boring.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/

Here is a compilation of Rice Rocket's posts that basically sum it up from all angles in a way that is LESS boring, and covers some of the selling and importing "tactics" that people THINK can skirt federal laws.

Basically I'll post a question or statement from a TR user and how RiceRocket Answered it. My comments will be in Orange Bold.



What is the difference in STATE and FEDERAL law when it comes to importing?
Posted by a TR user.
Down here, a car doesnt have to be EPA and DOT legal... all you need is registration and a tag. insurance is cake... how do you think people insure kit cars and one-off's?
Originally Posted by RiceRocket
Registration does not mean jack, and that DOES NOT mean it is legal to drive on the roads. Don't confuse the two.

Registration and tags is STATE level.
DOT AND EPA Compliance is FEDERAL LEVEL!!!

Even though you can get a plate...if the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT finds out your F@CKED. End of story, regardless of how it was shipped in. There are LAWS and PENALTIES for violating this. PERIOD. Anything else is just downright illegal.

According to the DOT, any automobile or automobile component MUST COMPLY with DOT/EPA regulations or it MUST be imported as "Offroad use only". Any automobile or automobile component imported under "OFFROAD USE ONLY" can NEVER be used on an American highway....NEVER.

-Charles

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What are the steps that a car has to go through in order to be Legal? What is the "Vehicle Eligibility list"


Originally posted by a TR member
so what does it take to make an imported car legal. or why cant the pulsar OR ANY FOREGIN CAR be legal and the skyline can?
Response from Rice Rocket

Motorex started off by petitioning the NHTSA. If your petition isn't immediately thrown out, it goes to petition review. During the petition review, you are allowed to import a few samples for dismantling, test fitting, and crash testing. The "non-conforming" cars must be modified by a RI and an ICI ONLY. In fact, at the time the Skyline was petitioned, Motorex wasn't even a RI. They hired another experienced RI to assist them (Motorex is now a RI). After all the petitions, applications, documentation, and crash testing, the NHSTA and EPA allowed the cars on the "Vehicle Eligibilty List". This means that can now be imported becuase they have been proven to meet US Spec (after modification). To protect it's intrests, Motorex had some of there "conversion materials and techniques" classified as "propietery". This is why nobody else imports them but Motorex. If somebody else choose to import the Skyline legally, than they would have to crash test them as well.

Funny enough, one conversion slipped past the EPA. OBD2. It seems that the 95+ (or is it 96+?) Skylines are not fully OBD2 compliant. Skylines in other countries are not OBD2, so there is no ECU for OBD2. The Government has restricted motorex from importing anymore "OBD2" cars till they create there own OBD2 package. Cars that were already in the USA were "grandfathered".

BTW, the process can take over a year to get your first "non-conforming" car approved.

So you ask about the Pulsar? The Pulsar obviously doesn't have anything CLOSE to it (body or engine wise). This immediately makes it a "non-conforming" car. That means it must go through all the processes that Motorex went through for the Skyline.

Then comes the next "obvious" question...
What about a civic or integra, they are "comparable", right?
WRONG. A few years ago, manufactures lobbied that a RHD vehicle WAS NOT comparable to a LHD vehicle, and the NHTSA agreed, the crash dynamics are different. That is why you would have to go through the WHOLE non-conforming process like the Skyline.

Okay...so you ask, what about a European LHD model that is comparable, that would work, right? This wuold be your BEST chance, but there are still MANY hurdles that you have to cross. You would still have to petition the car to be added to the "Vehicle Eligibilty List" as well.

Bascially, the VEHICLE ELIGIBILTY LIST is the BIBLE. If a car isn't on it, it isn't allowed UNLESS you petition and have the car added.

Currently, there are no Integras and no 92+ Civics on the list.

Doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.

Charles
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