Yeah I checked the timeing and the plugs and all the wires they are all fine. The spuddering isn't a consistant spudder. It will do it a little bit then stop and then 5 seconds or less later it will spudder a couple of times then stop. It will do it randomly, but yet all the time randomly. Unless I rev it up to a higher RPM. But I still think it is doing it a bit, I just can't hear it. I mean the car has 147000 miles on it, something has gone bad. Thanks for the help.