Originally Posted by Quickdomesticracer
Fine I wont argue no more. I am not no mid 20's to 30 year old guy who has 3gs to throw away on a stroker kit.. I am 16. I try to listen to what everyone has to say, because I am an amatuer when it comes to computerized EFI cars, as to carburated. I figured the guy at the local High Performance shop wouldnt try to make anything up. I have been around awhile listening and talking to people about there cars, countless times have I heard people on and offline, on and off Tamparacing.com that have told me Stock new LT1s had for the most part likw 285RWHP. It seems everytime I open or ask for advice on this people either Say I need some kinda LS1 conversion, or dont know anything. ALmost anyone here can tell me where to buy rims Pacesetter headers, but when I aske about brakes hardly anyone responds. Kinda weird u can build up ur motor but never change your brakes. Im not here to argue, but when I try to help and I am wrong ohwell. Anytime I wanted to know all the stuff I know now I tried asking people from this site.
well first of all, welcome to the real world.. im 19 not 30 and i dont have 3gs to throw at my lt1 either, you think this site is filled with old guys with no lives just here to flame you but your wrong, actually if you werent so arguementative you might learn something.
do you know what a dynojet is? have you ever put your "285" hp z28 on a dynojet? your car might (probably does) have close to 285 hp to the CRANK (crank being that big rotating things with rods on it with pistons on the end and something else about combustion). now that you know that much you should know that once that power is transfered thru the crank and flywheel thru the clutch, from the clutch thru tranny to the driveshaft, down the driveshaft and into the pumkin (pumpkin is a slang or jargin term for the center section of a cars rear end assmeblly) through all the gears, out your tiny axles, thru the wheels mass and onto the very edge of the tires which make a direct connection with the ground, a whole lot of that power has dissapated. its called PARASITIC LOSS. thats why there is a difference between REAR WHEEL horsepower and CRANK horsepower.
So lets say for the sake of the arguement (realistically) that your car has maybe 270 horsepower to the CRANK. After parasitic loss and some other factors (like pressure and outside temp and bs like that) you will probably have somewhere in the neighborhood of 250-260 REAR WHEEL horsepower.
Now... that company that claims their headers make 28 horsepower, they either are saying that thats 28 horsepower to the CRANK because engine dynos are usually how companies like that measure their gains (engine dynos measure crank horsepower). now we are assuming the company even TESTED their product. in reality there is no law saying that these companies have to tell you the EXACT gains you should expect from their product because they vary from car to car depending on a lotta shit. basically they can claim their headers will give you 280 hp and from the looks of it you would probably believe them
now as for the hypertech, if you use it it will screw your computer royally and you will end up getting a dyno tune to fix it so why waste the money.
as for modding the LT1 on a budget, heres an idea.. if you want to make it fast you best get a job and start saving money. there is no CHEAP or EASY way out of it.. work with cars and you will learn that yes they are fun and yes it is an EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE HOBBY. so go buy your hypertech and magical longtubes and put them on your stock 285 rear wheel hp camaro and then you will be up to 500 hp and your rear end will magically not break when you magically get traction
have a nice day