But does your buddy tell you what the dealers HoldBack is?
Point is this people....When you decide what bike you want to buy, and are ready to actually buy. Go to the dealers and let them know you are ready to pen a deal. Ask for the invoice sheet(usually a yellow carbon copy) and look for the lowest price on the sheet. Now look for a little descretely placed number(usually says HB right next to it), then take that number and subtract it from the lowest price you see on the paper and that is how much the bank/dealer owns that bike for. Also there can be rebates and/or incentives that could be awarded to the dealer.
Example......
04 Gixxer 1K...................................9,999msrp
invoice sheet..................................8,300cost
descretely listed number....................700hold back (HB)
finally........................................... ....1,000rebate
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actual investment...........................6,600 total
This total is an "example" of how one can figure what a dealer has in a new bike. The numbers do NOT represent ANY REAL number that may be associated with a deal, as i'm sure these gaps, between what they charge and what they have invested, are not quite so large. This was used ONLY for illustration purposes.
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