damn straight. all i hear from my contacts in california is how they bitch about their great mountain roads they have, and how they have like five max. go on runs every night, usually a 240 or two, a civic or two and occasionally a wrx or a corolla. they bitch about how amateur drivers come out and try to show off (much in teh same way the ricers ruined the straight line street races), and now the cops own the mountain roads and scene is busted.


i'd rather wreck and be alone in the dark for a while, than have 15 tagalongs screwing up my spot. besides, you losers will drive all over the bay area for hours at a time, but wont spend a 45 min drive out to my area and wont get hassled.

actually if anyone is really really really interested, there's a place quite far inland, (i.e. near avon park :o ) that is like a whole street grid for a planned city/subdivision that never got off the ground. a couple good miles of nothing but squares of streets, most have been turned into 45* to 90* corners since there's no traffic. only thing out there is 4 wheeler rednecks that dont care, they do the same thing.