yea well about the starting late into turns. there are more things to consider than line and what is 'right' and 30% of the time it is actually the CAR as in my case....

people were talking about the first turn for example, i said i have to wait till midway and then drift it or i couldnt do te whole turn, Rob said about CLUTCH kicking it obviously and on one run i tried to clutch kick it to texas from the start of the turn and all that happened was i ATE to left corner, keep in mind i FLOORed it to the corner so there is no more speed to attain entering it. so with the clutch/power of my car, there was no way to drift the first broad turn from an earlier point without getting dirty.

but i do agree that a lot of the time, the other 70%, is the driver waiting to late. and you said it comes with seat time. when i was riding with regina she was waiting till midway to start a slide but she did it very well, step by step she can move her start back to the beginning or even before (feint) and do it full on drift.

Its sooooo hard to judge another person on how they are doing because most of the time you dont know the car, and you dont know the confidence of the driver... we should hold a drift clinic maybe once to see how that works, and there could be options.... ill make a seperate post about this