If they are anything like the 712s they will suck. The Es100s are bounds better than anyhing by Kumho ive had yet. The 712s loved to grip crowns and runts in the roads of any tire ive used yet.

I do need a street tire that is gonna last. I drive a lot of miles, 500-600 a week. Ive gotten 21k outta my yokos and I might get lucky to have another 1-2 oil changes outta them, which is like 2 more months tops.