well it seems other people are saying otherwise that have been talking to me. and why was jay so upset that their link got out if it's not about bandwith? people were saying bandwith was the issue. so is the fact it got taken down because of bandwith or not? seems nabr needs to figure out who they want to police so I'm not talking to different people and getting different things from them. the link i was given i was known to be on someone elses server so my bad on that, but if bandwith isnt an issue then what was the big deal?