It's comments like that, that make me think some of you are still in high school.

But for what its worth I do all of my own product research (lots of it too) then seek the assistance of others to put it together since I no longer have the time or equipment to do it like I use to do. ( :o Yes I actually use to build my own projects do my own mods, many of which are still on my current car ! :o )

Sam is good about not trying to sell people on any one product and the question about Eagle products was never bounced off of him before making my decision. When a very well respected engine builder tells me a product is crap and he has seen it / worked with it first hand and I have already gathered the same info from multiple others sources I am going with that. If you have heard otherwise then you are certainly entitled to your opinion as I am too.

Between the material used, lack of proper nitriting, and questionable machine at times I am not spending my money on Eagle stuff. Which is unfortunate becuase there products use to have a flawless reputation.

Now once again, who instigated ? Riiiight.