Hmm.. I have never been beaten by any type r that I've came up on in my shitty little nissan 4cyl... And my car didnt even have vtec but It would leave a type r like no tomorrow. SO fuck type Rs and fuck you for creating a stupid ass thread just to swing on someones nuts. It will be locked soon enough.. You know one day you look back and laugh that you actually thought hondas were fast . But hopefully you'll win the darwin award way before that time comes.