i think HAVOC goes like a 12.40, as far as getting murdered from a dig......i knew i would on my azenis, but on my BFG D/Rs i dont think so. i kept my E-cutout closed and no one could figure out why. i forgot to open it!

i had a pressure washer, 1 12inch sub, amp, spare tire, and jack in my trunlk

plus my car still has AC and all power amenities, its a real daily driven civic